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Old 12-13-2008, 03:25 AM
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In the aftermath of the 2008 Gaystrococolis outbreak (G-Day), a video tape was found that doucumented the events of that terrible day minute by minute, second by second. What you are about to see is real, and is not for the faint of heart.


( Mod note - contains homophobic 'jokes' )

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Old 12-13-2008, 01:18 PM
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Looks to me like some people messing around with a camera.

No technical or editing knowledge, let alone a decent script.

Something to be proud of! I think not....
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I presume this is a spof on a film called cloverfield - not seen so my comments may not be in context.

I liked -

I dont know if the chaotic camera work was deliberate but it sort of worked for me - had a fly on the wall vibe.
The energy.

I didnt like -

Too long - too much apparently aimless repetiton in some scenes.

A gay plague?? Killing the 'fags'???
Is it irony or satire ?? Jokes about members of a group who are the ongoing victims of hate crime and prejudice in many parts of the world is a hard one to pull off. Many comedy people get away with some very crass humour but only becuase they have an existing presence and identity - we know what to expect and are unlikely to not get the satire - if you are not maybe you need to be more careful.

Not sure how to take this - is it an ironic comment mocking some peoples backward attitudes or is it an excuse for a load of hicksville red neck homo haters to disguise prejudice as pranks??

I suspect the former cos the latter would just be daft.

Whatever the fact that I am not sure means that there maybe are not enough pointers taking us through the gag.

Now tell me you are all cute gay boys and I got you all wrong.

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Read a review of the film. Now I see the chaotic camera is a spoof on the film.
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yeah its a spoof on cloverfield.

As for your question, I wrote this to get a point across. that point was that homosexuality is morally questionable, and seems to be spreading rapidly throughout society. However, many people blow it waaaaay out of proportion by adopting the whole "homophobic" attitude and just throwing nothing but hate twords these people. I mean it is a free country after all.

Pointing out the absurd with the absurd, i would call it.

and you are right about scenes getting drawn out, and i really wanted to cut it down to about 5 or 6 minutes myself, but when i did I realized that it didn't have the whole "cloverfield" style feel to it. If you've ever seen Cloverfield, Blair witch project, [REC], quarrantine, or any other film with that particular filming style, you would know just how painfully drawn out they really are.

but thanks I like the proffesional type criticism I see here. GDR i really didn't get much help from your comment, but I dont think you understood that that was how it was supposed to look, being a "first person handcam" knockoff.

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No problem, Maybe your right, I just don't get this concept!

Cheers.
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Man it's straight as hell. Good criticism is a privilage. On youtube its either "That waz teh Funiest thing i've evar seen! LOLOLOL!" or "Ur vid sucks bawls."

I like this site.
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Loils - I only answered cos i tht they were all gay.

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" I wrote this to get a point across. that point was that homosexuality is morally questionable, and seems to be spreading rapidly throughout society "

So you are homophobic rednecks then? Dam, one was cute too.

Unlucky for you I am as indecisive as a the wind wqhen it comes to sex - I have had lovers who are men and women all my life and I find your quote above personally quite offensive.

Only a prejusdiced person could think that what someone choses to do in bed for fun with a pal could be ' morally qustionable.'

We dont have a mission statement or equal ops statement - but if we did I am dam sure you would have crossed the line.

( you still like this site know you know how moraaly questionable I am?? )

Edit.

Just to be entirely clear. We live in complicated times. I have no wish to supress any views however unpleasent - the commnents above were from me personally - but I did feel it wise to add an advisory.

Given the inclusive nature of the forum it will be cool if anyone wants to discuss this further.

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The video is simply juvenile.

I suspect that it is a pro-gay film, an attempt to ridicule homophobia but I'm not sure. Like all spoofs it's difficult to decide what's intended and what simply doesn't work.
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Err.. Am I the only one to get it?

It is a gay video. So what? It ridicules homphobia sure but also takes the micky out of some gay stereotypes.

However, Since it has been made by gays it's a bit of a problem for me in the same way I have difficulties with black people telling racist jokes. Is it okay to take the mickey out of a minority if you are a member of that minority? Dunno.

However, the bottom line is that it is not well made. The acting is poor and the jokes weak. Technically the sound is sometimes barely understandable and the camerawork sloppy (even if it is supposed to be "cloverfield" shakey, it doesn't excuse the lack of skill). Making camerawork deliberately bad still demands a certain ability and, I'm afraid, your cameramn just didn't have it.

So, as "Gay entertainment" it still needs to have a certain level of competance which, I'm sorry, this didn't quite attain.
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