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    Hi There,

    I was hoping someone could give me some insight on a small problem I have in my first DVD Movie I have made using Premiere Pro 1.5. Everything is fine except when I made the DVD and played it on my Stand alone DVD player hooked to the TV I see minor ghosting from people walking or in my case the model rockets I shot on video.

    I have used Sony Vegas Studio +DVD and even have used Premiere 6 (I would edit in Premiere 6 and use the Sony program to burn to DVD till I got my Premiere Pro 1.5 recently. I have edited and burned DVD's both in the Sony Program as well with no problems of ghosting) both and never had this problem with the ghosting. It is like when a person walks by in front of the camera you see like a blurring effect ghosting behind them. I did not use any effects like this in the video when I produced the video in Premiere Pro 1.5. This is what has me stumped why it is there.

    On my Stand-alone DVD player, which is a Sony/VCR combo, there is little ghosting but noticeable. My friend has a Mitsubishi DVD player and it is more noticeable on his DVD player than mine. Now, if I play the DVD on my computer (and my friends computer) I see no ghosting at all. I have an LCD monitor and my friend has a CRT monitor.

    My specs to my computer are as follows:

    OS: Win XP PRO
    Monitor: 17" Viewsonic VX710 LCD
    CASE: Lian-Li Aluminum PC82
    PSU : 550w Antec TruePower
    MOBO: Intel D850GB
    PROC: Intel 1.7 GHz Pentium 4
    RAM : 512MB Samsung RDRam
    IDE1: 100 GB Western Digital
    IDE2: 120 GB Western Digital
    IDE3: Pioneer 16x DVD-ROM Drive
    IDE4: Sony DRU720A DVD-RW Drive
    AGP : BFG 6800OC 128 meg
    PCI1: [empty]
    PCI2: [empty]
    PCI3: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer
    PCI4: [empty]
    PCI5: [empty]

    If you need anymore information, then let me know!

    Thank You for your help!


    Dave

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    When you were burning your DVD, did you set it to the highest quality? And not to say SVCD or VCD quality? How did you connect your camera on this particular occassion to your computer, I take it was by Firewire and not USB? Did you change any of the capture settings on your software or update/replace/delete any codecs? Is the DVD playing back in full colour and filling the entire screen, I just want to make sure you didn't make an NTSC version instead.

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    EDIT: Ghosting SOLVED, see next post below this one!



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    When you were burning your DVD, did you set it to the highest quality?
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    This is what I had it set on and what it choose the first time:
    High quality, VBR transcoding of Progressive-frame content (max bit rate = 7)

    On the first try I did not change anything.

    I did try it again (re-rending the whole movie of mine) and changed the Maximize Bitrate and DID check that box. But I did not check the ForceVariable Bitrate box. And it still had the ghosting problem.

    I just tried again tonight with just a part of the video that I saw the ghosting in (with the Max BitRate box checked once again) (and also just did part of the video since it takes my computer 8 hours to do the complete video) because I thought maybe it was my computer either not fast enough or not enough memory, which I know I need really 1 gig or more, but it did the same thing with the ghosting.

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    And not to say SVCD or VCD quality?
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    I went to File/Export/Export to DVD so no I didnít do SVCD or VCD.

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    How did you connect your camera on this particular occassion to your computer, I take it was by Firewire and not USB?
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    Firewire

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    Did you change any of the capture settings on your software or update/replace/delete any codecs?
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    The first try I didnít change anything. The second try I did change (checked the box) the Maximize BitRate and it changed the Calculated BitRate to a 9. I noticed 7 is High Quality and thought since I changed that and it said 9 that was even better the second time but I get the same ghosting problem.

    No Codec replacement/updates or deletes, which is a good idea now that you bring that up, how do I know I have the right/updated ones? That might be what is causing this.

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    Is the DVD playing back in full colour and filling the entire screen, I just want to make sure you didn't make an NTSC version instead.
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    DVD is playing in full color and filling the screen. I did make it NTSC because I failed to mention I live in the USA, so that part is fine.

    I copied the below summary that it gives you. This is from the latest try that it still gave me the same ghosting problem as the very first try. Th only difference is this one I checked the Max Bitrate box and the first one I did not. Both gave me the same ghosting problems though, so maybe it is the codecs? I don't know, what do you think?


    General:
    Disc Name: 20053010_205741
    Timeline Markers: Yes
    Loop Playback: No

    Preset:
    Custom Preset
    Comment: High quality, VBR transcoding of Progressive-frame content (max bit rate = 7)

    Video Summary:
    Codec: MainConcept MPEG Video
    Quality: 5.0 (high quality)
    TV Standard: NTSC
    Frame Rate [fps]: 29.97 drop frame
    Field Order: None (Progressive)
    Aspect Ratio: 4:3
    Frame Width [pixels]: 720
    Frame Height [pixels]: 480
    Bitrate Encoding: VBR, 2 Pass
    Minimum Bitrate [Mbps]: 1.5000 (low quality)
    Target Bitrate [Mbps]: 4.0000 (low quality)
    Maximum Bitrate [Mbps]: 7.0000 (high quality)
    M Frames: 3
    N Frames: 15

    Audio Summary:
    Audio Format: PCM
    Codec: PCM Audio
    Sample Size: 16 bit
    Frequency: 48 kHz

    Encoding:
    Export Range: Entire Sequence
    Fields: None
    Maximize Bitrate: Yes
    Force Variable Bitrate: No

    DVD Burner:
    Burner: I:\SONY DVD RW DRU-720A
    Speed: Auto
    Burner Status: Ready
    Number of Copies: 1
    Record Options: Record

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    Thank You for responding!


    Dave

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    OK, I solved the Ghosting Problem and man does the video look GREAT now! So clear!

    I went in and changed some settings just to see the different BitRates and what they change too and found this one that changed the BitRate to 7 and no Minimum and no Maximum setting for the BitRates. So I chose that one, tried it and the video has NO ghosting at all when burned to DVD and played on my set top DVD player.

    This is the setting used:
    NTSC DV 4x3 High Quality 7Mb CBR 1 Pass
    Comment: High quality, CBR transcoding of DV content

    This is the summary page from that setting:
    General:
    Disc Name: 20053010_232015
    Timeline Markers: Yes
    Loop Playback: No

    Preset:
    Custom Preset
    Comment: High quality, CBR transcoding of DV content

    Video Summary:
    Codec: MainConcept MPEG Video
    Quality: 5.0 (high quality)
    TV Standard: NTSC
    Frame Rate [fps]: 29.97 drop frame
    Field Order: Lower
    Aspect Ratio: 4:3
    Frame Width [pixels]: 720
    Frame Height [pixels]: 480
    Bitrate Encoding: CBR
    Bitrate [Mbps]: 7.0000 (high quality)
    M Frames: 3
    N Frames: 15

    Audio Summary:
    Audio Format: PCM
    Codec: PCM Audio
    Sample Size: 16 bit
    Frequency: 48 kHz

    Encoding:
    Export Range: Entire Sequence
    Fields: Lower
    Maximize Bitrate: Yes
    Force Variable Bitrate: No

    DVD Burner:
    Burner: I:\SONY DVD RW DRU-720A
    Speed: Auto
    Burner Status: Ready
    Number of Copies: 1
    Record Options: Record

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    THANK YOU for your help Nikosony!


    Dave

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