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    Quote Originally Posted by jochicago View Post
    Not against your take, but I think you are oversimplifying in a few spots. For instance:
    > if the Ryzen 3700X is $329 and you do video editing, why would you buy anything else at that point. It's an 8 core CPU with a 3.6 Ghz - 4.4 GHz clock speeds. You want to save $100 to get a last gen 6 core?

    But in your previous point you were saying that new boards are being released for the processor. So you acknowledge that the processor is not the only moving piece in the system. We are not talking about savings of $100 for the CPU, it's the same that happens with Intel that all the other related components also cost more to support the CPU's architecture.

    In short, it's not savings of $100, it's more when you account for all the parts. Also, the main reason is not just savings, for me compatibility and stability are paramount. I'll rather wait 5 seconds for my video editor to apply an intensive effect, than reduce that to a 3 seconds wait and have an unstable system that crashes regularly.
    Well, not really. I said new boards are being made, but the new CPU's have the same AM4 socket, meaning AMD 300 and 400-series motherboards can still be used, which will be the case for most budged builds.

    You would only buy the new X570 chipset boards if you need the new PCIe 4.0 technology, which will have no benefit for video cards, because the bus is not the bottleneck, the cards itself are, so the only reason to get the X570 boards would be if you intend to overclock the new CPU a lot and if you plan to buy PCIe 4.0 SSDs that will hit the market soon after with 5500 Mb/s Read and Write speeds.
    Mind you - those m.2 PCIe 4.0 SSDs will cost more then the budget PC itself, so those will be unattainable for budged buyers anyway.

    One might get a lower end X570 board for future proofing by spending additional $100 or more, but that's about it in terms of savings.

    So, in most cases (for budget builds) it will end up being ONLY a $100 difference, because literary every other component will be the same including the motherboard, because the new gen CPUs are on the same AM4 socket. It might be a $200 difference if one would go with a low to mid end motherboard swap.
    I can already envision mainstream stores full with pre-build AMD PC's with the new Ryzen CPU, but X300 or X400 (previous gen) series Motherboards.


    Here is an example of 2 medium budged builds, one being with the previous Ryzen and X470 board and the other one with the New Ryzen and X570 board.
    The pricing for the boards is not available yet, so i made an estimate from what is currently known from board manufacturers.

    All prices for each component in both builds are from the same sellers.

    Build 1 - Ryzen 7 2700X with X470 board

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7, 2700X, 3.7 GHz, 4.3 GHz Boost, 8 Core (€289.90 @ Caseking) - €289.90 is the CURRENT price, they will drop 20% after Ryzen 3000 launch. So will be roughly €232.00 (taking this amount for total)
    Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€149.00 @ ARLT)

    CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€88.19 @ Aquatuning)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (€184.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€292.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Storage: Seagate - IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€179.90 @ Caseking)
    Video Card: Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card (€599.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Case: Corsair - 750D ATX Full Tower Case (€131.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€102.77 @ Mindfactory)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (€55.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Total: €2014.75 (with CPU price drop)


    Build 2 - Ryzen 7 3700X with x570 baord

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7, 3700X, 3.6GHz, 4.4 Ghz Boost, 8 Core, TDP, 65W ($329 @ Amazon Deutschland) - Announced price, don't know what retailers will have in the end.
    Motherboard: Asus - Prime X570-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€220.00 @ ARLT) - ESTIMATED PRICE. Roughly €80 price increase sounds reasonable.

    CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€88.19 @ Aquatuning)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (€184.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€292.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Storage: Seagate - IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€179.90 @ Caseking)
    Video Card: Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card (€599.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Case: Corsair - 750D ATX Full Tower Case (€131.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€102.77 @ Mindfactory)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (€55.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Total: €2182.75

    That's only €168 savings on 2 components and for what? Buying a 1.5 year old CPU and MB from the get go?
    If we would have kept the X470 motherboard, then it would have been only €97 savings!

    I think if you make money with filming and editing, then €168 should not be a problem. Otherwise you are doing something wrong from a business perspective.
    Last edited by RL_Sensei; 05-30-2019 at 10:35 AM.

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    How to know which particular version of in the case of above example the RTX 2070? there's so many different builds and prices also seem to be quite different between all the different versions.
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