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Thread: Sony Vegas Platinum v11 etc - any accurate barrel distortion plug-in?

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    Default Sony Vegas Platinum v11 etc - any accurate barrel distortion plug-in?

    I am processing videos from the Sony FDR-1000V camera.

    With a 120-degree FOV it doesn't distort much but you still see it.

    Vegas has a Distort plug-in which enables one to do a crude correction, but it isn't a proper barrel correction to match what the lens actually does. So e.g. here



    you can see I managed to get the horizon fairly straight, until one is banking and then it gets curved at the L and R ends.

    There are plug-ins for some other video editors but given the learning curve I prefer to stay with Vegas which at least seems to be bug-free and has far more features than I can use

    There are also standalone apps e.g. Mercalli ProDAD. Vegas actually contains the stabilisation portion of ProDAD but not the lens corrector. However I would prefer to not use a standalone prog because I am shooting at 1080P (50fps 50mbits/sec) and rendering to 1080P so don't want to waste more data than is necessary. Already, I am cropping stuff around the edges in Vegas because the Distort corrector inevitably introduces some pincushion and thus some dark bits around the edges.

    Many thanks for any pointers.

    Maybe I should shoot at 4k, to produce 1080P videos with lens correction? The Sony camera doesn't stabilise at 4k but my camera mount is fairly rigid
    http://www.euroga.org/forums/website...-movies?page=3

    BTW I am still on winXP-32 (due to specialised apps) but I am building a new PC, 6-core i7-970, which will dual-boot winXP/win7-64 so that would be another option.
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    Just curious, but is it possible that the curvature you are seeing is due to the roundness of the earth? Your camera is pretty high up so I'm guessing you could start seeing a curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zamiotana View Post
    Just curious, but is it possible that the curvature you are seeing is due to the roundness of the earth? Your camera is pretty high up so I'm guessing you could start seeing a curve.
    Not at the altitudes I fly at... You would need to be at around 50,000ft to see the curvature of the horizon. The highest I ever go is 20,000ft. But the videos I have on Vimeo are at very low levels - a few thousand usually.

    Doing a google on this, it looks like loads of people are looking for a solution, but Vegas has no plug-ins. Not apparently even the very latest one, v13. There are only external apps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterh337 View Post
    There are plug-ins for some other video editors but given the learning curve I prefer to stay with Vegas which at least seems to be bug-free and has far more features than I can use
    Try this. I've never used it but have a small arsenal of NewBlue FX for Vegas which seem pretty reliable.

    https://www.newbluefx.com/blog/remov...lens-corrector
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    I think you mean this
    https://www.newbluefx.com/products/totalfx
    which is a plug-in for Vegas Pro, but it costs $1500
    They mention a $400 option but their website is horrible.

    I don't mind spending a bit of money on e.g. Vegas Pro latest but $1400 is a bit much especially as Vegas already has all the other stuff I ever need.
    Last edited by peterh337; 05-31-2016 at 04:42 PM.

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    Seems to be available here as well
    https://www.newbluefx.com/products/essentials/volume-2
    There's a free trial, but the plug-ins are probably not working with your current set-up anyway.

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    Newbluefx have confirmed to me by email that their $99 product will work with this
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Movie-.../dp/B008RVQMOW
    so that's the way to go.

    Their filters need 64-bit so e.g. win7-32 is no good but curiously winXP-64 would be OK!

    I am building a dual-boot winP-32/win7-64 machine. It has a GTX750 video card which, the product claims, will work as a coprocessor for Vegas. I wonder how much that speeds things up over, say, a 6-core i7-970?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterh337 View Post
    It has a GTX750 video card which, the product claims, will work as a coprocessor for Vegas.
    It won't! Lengthy discussions on Vegas forum about what works and what doesn't. GPU acceleration is a bit of a mess with Vegas. Vegas will not use CUDA on cards later than 5xx series. Do not buy this card specifically for Vegas. It's a bit better with OpenCL and AMD cards have a better implementation of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterh337 View Post
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    Their (NewBlueFX) filters need 64-bit so e.g. win7-32 is no good but curiously winXP-64 would be OK!
    The (now corrected) SCS KB item 5180 that I referred to in post No. 10 here first gave wrong info on just this issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by peter37 View Post
    ---I am building a dual-boot winP-32/win7-64 machine. It has a GTX750 video card which, the product claims, will work as a coprocessor for Vegas. I wonder how much that speeds things up over, say, a 6-core i7-970?
    I gather the OP noted that MSPlatinum 12 does not support WinXP.

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    Yes - MSP 12 and the Newblue plug-in will be running under win7-64. Win7 because MSP12 needs win7+ and -64 because the NB plug-ins needs 64 bits

    I went for that GTX750 video card because I have the fanless version
    http://www.palit.com/palit/vgapro.php?id=2378
    which is important because every video card I have ever used with a fan had the fan seize up within a year or two. They use cheap and dirty fans which clog up with dust.
    It is also about the fastest card which has drivers for winXP so is ideal for a machine which needs to run old but high value software and cannot solve the issue easily with a VM.

    Most of my renders take 5-10 hours on a quad core QX9650, winXP. The new i7-970 machine should be a lot faster even if the app doesn't use the extra instructions.

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