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    I Hi guys.
    recents attempts to upgrade my RAM to 8gb by a dodgy company have sadly left my laptop knackered so having to buy something new.

    i have several hours of raw footage filmed in HD 1920x1080 which I want to edit into movies. The files have been recorded on my canon SX1 which records into.MOV files.

    i have about 500GB of footage which caused me problems in slowing my previous laptop down.
    Here are my questions:

    if I want to edit in a reasonably decent quality, but low enough to be down loaded onto YouTube, how should I reduce the quality of my raw footage and what should I be converting it to?

    i plan on editing using premiere pro

    what laptop / Mac should I be buying? I plan on editing on my commute to work do needs to be mobile.
    Note, my previous laptop had 4gb of RAM which badly struggled with my footage. Too slow and unmanageable.

    i want something that has enough memory that comfortably holds my footage on the internal drive and has enough RAM so that I editinh without delay.

    Lookimg to spend up to 1500

    many thanks in advance

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    If I may suggest a couple of slight modifications to your plan ...

    1 - go to an Italian men's wear shop and buy a nice shirt for 200 pounds - they will try to sell you one that seems to be two sizes too small but this is fine - just go with it

    2 - take your remaining 1300 pounds and buy a plane ticket to Longreach in Queensland, Australia

    3 - when you get there, start looking for a filmmaker named Josh Dredge

    4 - once you have found Josh, he will give you a t-shirt that says "crew" and, in return for your fancy Italian shirt, he will show you how to make great videos while sitting behind a desk in 40 degrees Celsius

    important note - don't ask him to stand up from behind his desk or you may be "exposed" to his secret for staying cool in 40 degrees celcius

    keep us posted

    zam

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    that was helpful - thanks

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    Zam, not sure what you were thinking. Maybe having a bad day?

    Anything you buy to use with Premiere Pro is going to need at least 8GB ram, preferably more. Pr will use everything you can throw at it and as you found out 4GB really isn't enough.

    You're looking for a machine that also has a GPU that Adobe supports (or can be enabled) for faster processing. CPU only video production can be quite a slow process compared to CPU+GPU.

    MacBookPro should work well but the MacBookAir etc just aren't up to is (the GPU sucks).

    Windows laptops would be a cheaper option, but again, you're looking for a CUDA GPU or at least a GPU that's Open CL supported, not one with an integrated GPU if possible.

    In terms of footage size, the more you shoot the bigger it gets. I've got over 100TB so your 500GB would easily fit on any drive I have Buy yourself some more storage and don't keep it all on the computer at the same time. Limit it to what you're working on.

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    If you want to go mobile, I's suggest you do not want all 500GB footage on your laptop's hard drive at once. Get an external Drive (actually get two - you should always backup) and transfer the stuff relevant to the bits you are currently working on onto the laptop as and when you need it. Similarly, transfer finished (or semi-finished) parts off the laptop.
    I would not recommend you "reduce the quality" before editing. The video files your camera shoots are already highly compressed. H264 has fantastic compression, but it is a delivery format, not really an editing one. It is quite likely that this is the reason you've been struggling in the past. You may do better to transcode to a more editor friendly format (which will make the files much bigger!) before you start editing. You should certainly aim to edit in the highest resolution and increase compression when you export.
    Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT1980 View Post
    Lookimg to spend up to 1500
    A visit to www.pcspecialist.co.uk will show that 1500 can configure and purchase a very fast laptop.
    I like 16Gb of RAM; but many Users are happy with 8Gb.

    Quote Originally Posted by JT1980 View Post
    i plan on editing using premiere pro
    Consider which OS you intend to use. On a PC; you should, of course; select a 64bit (not 32bit) version.
    Consider which version and edition you intend to use. Then, visit the Abobe site to check the required specs for a PC.
    It may also recommend specific Video cards. In some cases, I think CUDA may be used to improve performance.
    The card must, of course be capable of handling HD 1080.

    Quote Originally Posted by JT1980 View Post
    if I want to edit in a reasonably decent quality, but low enough to be down loaded onto YouTube, how should I reduce the quality of my raw footage and what should I be converting it to?
    Many folk choose to create H264 files. The MP4s are suitable for uploading to YouTube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT1980 View Post
    that was helpful - thanks
    You're welcome

    i am curious to know why you have selected Ppro out of the gate - this is a professional editing environment and you are only looking for something to keep yourself busy while riding the bus to work - the canon sx1 is a nice camera but it is really intended for point-and-shoot snapshots and home movies - again Ppro doesn't sound like the right tool - what sort of editing are you planning to do beyond cutting up the footage and adding a few transitions?

    am I missing something?

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    When I was enquiring about ram upgrades and editing software a few months ago, other users recommended Ppro. My previous editing was on P elements which was fine but I found I wasn't able to zoom in on my time line to match music transitions with clips accurately enough.
    Following the recommendation I downloaded the 30 day trail Ppro which worked fine, although when I dragged files from my external drive and edited and saved, I found my saved version wasn't able to link back to the external hard drive so I lost my editing. (As noted, I'm a starter, hence posting in this section)
    Since u ask I film a video blog of my fishing adventures in Europe, as a hobby. For my hobby, I'm sponsored by a multinational bait firm who have edited my filming up to 2012, and posted the videos on their website. I want to start editing it myself as I have a further 5 trips to date and have numerous others scheduled. It's the drive and survive series on ccmoore.tv.
    I live 90 minutes outside London on a train, not a bus, for my real job. That's 3hrs editing a day. Am I on the wrong forum?!
    Other posters, thanks for your advice, I will respond once digested

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    Sweet!

    you are on the right forum

    you probably figured out how much Ppro costs already so this is why I'm wondering whether you really need it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT1980 View Post
    When I was enquiring about ram upgrades and editing software a few months ago, other users recommended Ppro. My previous editing was on P elements which was fine but I found I wasn't able to zoom in on my time line to match music transitions with clips accurately enough.
    I'm surprised at that. If not, Sony Movie Studio will certainly allow you to zoom right in (well beyond individual frames - I suspect down to an individual audio sample)
    Tim

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