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    Featuring Diablo (a indie/rock band) who I photograph and video a lot. It has guitars and is a bit loud - so may not be everyone's cup of tea!!

    I am trying to improve my editing techniques by reading on this forum.

    It was recorded on a (hand held) Nikon DSLR - so I know its a bit wobbly in places! It's just not possible to use a tripod in live situations like this!

    I recorded the audio seperately on a Zoom H4 recorder
    Edited on Sony Vegas Movie Studio 10.0



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    I'll just say a few things about this. First you up loaded it at a very low compression 240 YouTubes lowest and worst quality. The video suffers for this as the content is not strong enough to lift it. The Zoom H4 captured the sound quite well considering it's very hard to record a live band like this.

    Have a look at the video below and follow it's technique for a single camera shoot of a live band. It may help you in the future. See how he took bits out of sequence during editing and used them cleverly to look like it was shot with more than one camera. Using this technique will help you get rid of the wandering camera look.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blue View Post
    I'll just say a few things about this. First you up loaded it at a very low compression 240 YouTubes lowest and worst quality. The video suffers for this as the content is not strong enough to lift it. The Zoom H4 captured the sound quite well considering it's very hard to record a live band like this.

    Have a look at the video below and follow it's technique for a single camera shoot of a live band. It may help you in the future. See how he took bits out of sequence during editing and used them cleverly to look like it was shot with more than one camera. Using this technique will help you get rid of the wandering camera look.

    Cheers Midnight - will looksee.

    On compression - I used the default Vegas "Upload To Youtube"....what do you suggest I should have done?

    Thanks for feedback - all welcome

    John

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    Well, if you went to the trouble of shooting HD, you should minimally upload 720p to get the best looking image. There are MainConcept HDV 720p templates in Vegas which will work fine for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blue View Post
    Well, if you went to the trouble of shooting HD, you should minimally upload 720p to get the best looking image. There are MainConcept HDV 720p templates in Vegas which will work fine for this.
    Actually it isn't shot in HD I cant shoot long enough with my camera at that quality setting 5 mins max as opposed to 20 otherwise.
    But I (should have done this earlier!) looked at the sticky on using Vegas for Youtube and have made a note of the settings for next time.

    On the actual editing. I looked at the video you kindly inserted. Not making excuses! but that was what I tried to do. I have used quite a bit of editing in the film using clips taken from different angles. I think I need to be more agreesive using the technique (and when shooting try and get more footage that doesn't need synching to the audio (bane of my life that!!!). Considering my first band videos were all a single shot from the front of stage..this is an improvement believe me!!

    Cheers

    John

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    Do you mean it shoots for 5 mins then stops or it will only take 5 mins of HD on the card ?

    I do see that you did do this technique a little but the amount of wandering camera makes it look less than professional. I never move the camera without a purpose when I shoot these days. ie to follow the action or a tasteful pan from one known point to another. Don't let the reason be "Ok that's enough of the drummer, I want to shoot the singer now".

    (and when shooting try and get more footage that doesn't need synching to the audio (bane of my life that!!!).
    Did you notice in the example I posted that he used long shots and shots from the side and back so he didn't have to sync the audio to much. It's always a learning curve in this game, well I know I'm still learning how to be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blue View Post
    Do you mean it shoots for 5 mins then stops or it will only take 5 mins of HD on the card ?

    I do see that you did do this technique a little but the amount of wandering camera makes it look less than professional. I never move the camera without a purpose when I shoot these days. ie to follow the action or a tasteful pan from one known point to another. Don't let the reason be "Ok that's enough of the drummer, I want to shoot the singer now".


    Did you notice in the example I posted that he used long shots and shots from the side and back so he didn't have to sync the audio to much. It's always a learning curve in this game, well I know I'm still learning how to be better.
    Just shoots 5 mins then has to stop (to allow sensor to cool down). I know I could stop and start camera as I am recording audio seperately.....but I am then worried I miss some key action. I think it's my editing technique that needs work...I need less dwelling on one shot..but think about shots to edit in..and more of them.

    Appreciate the advice.

    Another quick question...Do you think that when uploaded to youtube it puts audio out of synch sometimes? Or is it me?

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    Just shoots 5 mins then has to stop (to allow sensor to cool down).
    Is this normal in your type of camera. I've heard of restrictions on DSLRs because of tax ie they would have to pay import duty of a video camera and not a photo camera or something like that. BUT over heating after 5 mins doesn't sound right to me.

    but I am then worried I miss some key action
    This is the cross we have to bare.

    I need less dwelling on one shot..but think about shots to edit in..and more of them
    Exactly

    Do you think that when uploaded to youtube it puts audio out of synch sometimes?
    Yes it can do, one trick I read to get round this is to not have blank bits at the beggining and end of the video, I've never had this problem so I don't know if this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blue View Post
    Is this normal in your type of camera. I've heard of restrictions on DSLRs because of tax ie they would have to pay import duty of a video camera and not a photo camera or something like that. BUT over heating after 5 mins doesn't sound right to me.<br />
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    This is the cross we have to bare. <img src="images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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    Exactly<br />
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    Yes it can do, one trick I read to get round this is to not have blank bits at the beggining and end of the video, I've never had this problem so I don't know if this works.
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    apologies - just checked handbook HD 5 min limit is due to EU tax regime as you stated!! The overheating I remembered is for camera on live view for 60 mins. Funny but later cameras don't have this restriction hey ho!

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