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    I have videod this band a number of times live. But this was my first attempt at editing together live footage,recording studio footage linked to the finished audio soundtrack.

    It was all shot using a DSLR and Vegas Movie Studio. I realise its not all that polished - but would welcome you input before I start my next one!

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    OK. I'm not an expert - so feel free to criticise my criticisms!

    There's a few issues, but mainly I think you need be a bit more creative with the camera. There's a bit camera shake, but nothing a tripod/steadicam wouldn't sort out. The video doesn't really take off until a minute in when you can see you're trying to experiment. This music is pacey, and I have this urge to cut it up some more. You need a lot more fast cuts! If you do that - this will feel more like a visceral experience. Also, I suggest you get closer if you can. More close ups and extreme close ups . For the first minute of the video, I felt rather distant - like I'm at the back of a concert and I can't really see what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiral Dementia View Post
    OK. I'm not an expert - so feel free to criticise my criticisms!

    There's a few issues, but mainly I think you need be a bit more creative with the camera. There's a bit camera shake, but nothing a tripod/steadicam wouldn't sort out. The video doesn't really take off until a minute in when you can see you're trying to experiment. This music is pacey, and I have this urge to cut it up some more. You need a lot more fast cuts! If you do that - this will feel more like a visceral experience. Also, I suggest you get closer if you can. More close ups and extreme close ups . For the first minute of the video, I felt rather distant - like I'm at the back of a concert and I can't really see what's going on.
    Cheers Spiral. I agree about bits of shake! All handheld - its a problem with a DSLR! I can see where you are coming from with the fast cuts...point taken. Close ups were tricky in studio set up - because I couldnt get in way of recording (it was the actual recording - not a set up- time was money for the band).

    Its good to get an outsiders perspective. Appreciate your comments.

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    Ah I see! I just got a HDSLR myself! Camera shake is the enemy.

    Still, great effort considering you had very little time, and was improvising.

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    Are you telling me DSLRs don't have tripod mounts

    To be honest, very few people will still be watching by the time the song starts. I rather liked the beginning - it made me feel a bit like a voyeur, seeing something i perhaps shouldn't, but I think it hsould have cut to the beginning of the song as he turns back to the mic after taking a swigh of water. Certainly no later. All the other stuff adds nothing - it may be interesting to those present but to me who's never heard the band before it's just rather more of the same. Like a voyeuristic porn film where you never get to see anything - the anticipation can ony last so long.

    But one of the biggest pitfalls for me was the fact what the band is playing never matches what we are seeing. You can get away with the off slow-mo bit (which clearly won't fit) and leaps and laughs but at least some of the video should match the music.

    This was particularly obvious at the beginning - that drum beat really should have had and image which matches - it's not difficult: my Merry Xmas Everybody (see video of teh month) vid has a bit of my nephew playing drums. I filmed him playing on his own - he was actually playing considerably slower than the track we used and, to be honest, not very well, but it was pretty easy to select a few shots and make them fit.

    What really brought it home to me was I was typing this whilst listening to the track and I noticed a rather nifty guitar solo: I actually missed this when watching because although you show the guitarist playing a solo, the playing clearly doesn't match what we are hearing.

    So the confusion between what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing is actually doing a disservice to the band's material.

    I'd agree with Spiral's comments about faster cuts, more close-ups (which you've explained away), but I also think you could liven it up a bit. Electric guitars, mic stands and drum kits have lots of shiny metal - let's see a few glints and sparkles.
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    I hope you don't mind, but I had a go a re-syncing the bit in question. It's not note perfect, but I hope you'll agree it's an improvement ...

    Tim

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    Tim you must have really been frustrated to re edit the guitar solo. Yours is much better. I think just shifting the whole audio track back about a second or half a second would greatly improve things.

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    Love the music, but I agree with what has already been said - the camera shake is very distracting for me, sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimStannard View Post
    I hope you don't mind, but I had a go a re-syncing the bit in question. It's not note perfect, but I hope you'll agree it's an improvement ...

    That is well done Tim! I am impressed. I do take your points as valid criticism. I would have liked to do what you have achieved for example with this clip....I did try!. But I am still fumbling my way around the software so could get close but no stars!

    On your other points from the previous post. No room for a tripod!! Also - this was the "live" recording session. So I couldnt do a "hang on - can we do that again" job. I just shot as much as I could and edited it together.

    Fair do's on the overall "feel" of it. Thats why I asked for feedback here. It's my baby - I did it - the band are happy because its them and it gets their song on Youtube!. But its good to hear what other people think.

    I am basically a still photographer "playing" with video. But hopefully my next effor will be better!

    Thanks to all those who have commented!

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by photographer View Post
    Love the music, but I agree with what has already been said - the camera shake is very distracting for me, sorry!
    Yep - Need to work on that!!!

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