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    Hello folks,

    It's been a very long time since I've been on this great forum.

    Me and a small team have put together a 5 minute short film about a campy horror story.

    This short film was made entirely on analog equipment, meaning there was NO digital camorders, sound or anything like that until the very end when it had to be imported and converted to a digital format to be seen on the web.

    The camera we used came from 1986 and it was a JVC VideoMovie (For those of you who remember).

    This film is also a product of 5 years of visual research which has not been quite perfected just as of yet. I have been trying to achieve a retro feel to digital film using different equipment, shooting techniques, lighting and post filters.

    The short film was inspired by a short story of mine as well as a great b-rated horror/comedy film called Army of Darkness!

    Take a look at the film and tell me what you think, we're thinking of making a sequel that is going to be anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes in length.

    Here is the link!


    Comment away and if you like it, spread the word =D,

    Thank you so much!
    Frank (RET)
    Imagination and discipline are like yin and yang; both are completely different and yet without each other they are nothing.

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    First of all I have to say I enjoyed your movie. I have some idea of the limitations you had and appreciate how you overcame them. Especially the sound. You have a real talent for Foley work. There were other touches which I enjoyed like spinning off the brush head in the manner it was done.

    I'm very impressed with the analogue editing. I'm sure I could never have done it with out the aide of a computer.

    The overall appearance of the movie could have been better with some thought to lighting and a bit less shaky camera work but I will forgive that as the movie did draw me in.

    One thing I couldn't forgive is the actor in the main roll was far to young to play the part of someone who has been working there for 30 years !

    Good luck with you retro quest.

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    Well I also enjoyed the movie and watched it all the way through. I agree with Midnights comments and would add;

    Its not scary, its not funny but the story has the potential to go either way. I suppose each of us experience fear from different things in a horror movie. I rented a horror dvd this evening and as usual throughout I was analysing what scared me.

    First thing to say its never the gore. The gore merely delivers the final shiver, like when you taste something very sour. I find its often the worst whenever the camera pulls in tight on the potential victim. Similar to your movie, janitor goes into basement, hears strange noises, we get brief glimpses of shadows moving etc which is obviously the monster, then janitor steps into the room, camera cuts to closeup so that you cannot see what is to the left or right of him. Bang we get the confrontation.

    I would like to see your sequel if only to see how you improve. Think about the best horror films you have watched and break down what scared you and why. This sort of thing can be done very cheaply, take the latest craze sweeping the states at the moment, the guy who made a film of his haunted flat.

    Oh how I wish I was 17 again with all me mates. Back then we made a film about an escaped fugitive on 8mm cine. I still have it. It was a blast. I doubt I could persuade anyone to do that sort of stuff now.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blue View Post
    First of all I have to say I enjoyed your movie. I have some idea of the limitations you had and appreciate how you overcame them. Especially the sound. You have a real talent for Foley work. There were other touches which I enjoyed like spinning off the brush head in the manner it was done.

    I'm very impressed with the analogue editing. I'm sure I could never have done it with out the aide of a computer.

    The overall appearance of the movie could have been better with some thought to lighting and a bit less shaky camera work but I will forgive that as the movie did draw me in.

    One thing I couldn't forgive is the actor in the main roll was far to young to play the part of someone who has been working there for 30 years !

    Good luck with you retro quest.
    Thanks for the comments and criticism!

    I'll tell you what, the lighting was REALLY a huge challenge to overcome because the camcorder we used had a really low LUX intake so everything was abnormally dark, even for a well lit scene. Take for example, the first scene for the opening. That was shot with two cars with their high beams on 30 feet away from the subject (the scene) and yet it was still WAY too dark.

    As for the janitor himself, believe it or not he's 21, yeah he's young but we ran out of funds and supplies to make him look old, so what we did to compensate was to let him smile while he was in the basement to show some latex wrinkles we added onto him.

    In the next one, I've been carefully crafting a latex cellulite application for under his eyes, neck, cheeks and chin to make it seem as if it was sagging a bit more. Kind of like the old guy from the six flags commercial:


    The Only thing is, he will not look as old as the example video and will only have two streaks of gray hair on either side.

    The next film (Janitor 2) will be kind of a retelling of the first with a continuation and I don't know whether it will be shot in the old JVC or film or HD. My team is having a really heated discussion over the entire subject, I would like your guys input as well regarding the whole issue...

    So we are either choosing the JVC (from before), an HD format (SONY), or film (Kodak Vision 3 super 8mm).

    Here are some fine examples of the HD format with some film software added on to make it look like film:



    Both of which I can achieve.

    See which one you folks like better, the original format, or these new styles, the next Janitor will be a larger production since the first was for fun and to 'feel around' for the next...
    Last edited by RET80; 10-29-2009 at 09:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrimpfarmer View Post
    Well I also enjoyed the movie and watched it all the way through. I agree with Midnights comments and would add;

    Its not scary, its not funny but the story has the potential to go either way. I suppose each of us experience fear from different things in a horror movie. I rented a horror dvd this evening and as usual throughout I was analysing what scared me.

    First thing to say its never the gore. The gore merely delivers the final shiver, like when you taste something very sour. I find its often the worst whenever the camera pulls in tight on the potential victim. Similar to your movie, janitor goes into basement, hears strange noises, we get brief glimpses of shadows moving etc which is obviously the monster, then janitor steps into the room, camera cuts to closeup so that you cannot see what is to the left or right of him. Bang we get the confrontation.

    I would like to see your sequel if only to see how you improve. Think about the best horror films you have watched and break down what scared you and why. This sort of thing can be done very cheaply, take the latest craze sweeping the states at the moment, the guy who made a film of his haunted flat.

    Oh how I wish I was 17 again with all me mates. Back then we made a film about an escaped fugitive on 8mm cine. I still have it. It was a blast. I doubt I could persuade anyone to do that sort of stuff now.

    Good luck
    Ah, super 8, what a format, believe it or not it's still around and with new negative stock from Kodak (Vision 3).

    The feel of the film was supposed to be exactly what you mentioned, it could go either way. A bit scary but also a bit funky/funny. It would be kind of like the old Army of Darkness film. It was scary with monsters and demons but it was also really weird and funny most of the time.

    We are trying to steer away from the 'torture porn' aspect of horror like the saw movies. It just has too much nonsense-gore to be enjoyable to watch. Films like Hellraiser use less and show more and emphasize WHAT they show, if anything.

    Which brings me to my next point.
    From my experience with low budget films, showing less is showing more in reality in my opinion. It gives the imagination room to 'fill in the gaps' and thus, the imagination determines what exactly COULD be scary. Shadows, quick shots and indirect shots give it that atmosphere, wouldn't you say? I think I didn't show that enough with this short, what do you think?
    Imagination and discipline are like yin and yang; both are completely different and yet without each other they are nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RET80 View Post
    Shadows, quick shots and indirect shots give it that atmosphere, wouldn't you say? I think I didn't show that enough with this short, what do you think?
    I agree, less can be more. Take for instance the Exorcist. The scene where banging is hear coming from the loft. Very little in that scene other than camera angles, great sound but the fear is huge.

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    I thought the whole idea of the project was the retro aspect, more of a technical quest to use "out dated" equipment. Just to see what you can get out of them. BUT if you want to go HD thats fine. It's your game, you can play it any way you want.

    I preferred the Death Vally clips. The other footage looked jerky to but that could have been my internet being rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blue View Post
    I thought the whole idea of the project was the retro aspect, more of a technical quest to use "out dated" equipment. Just to see what you can get out of them. BUT if you want to go HD thats fine. It's your game, you can play it any way you want.

    I preferred the Death Vally clips. The other footage looked jerky to but that could have been my internet being rubbish.
    That it was may still be. I REALLY enjoyed using the older technology but I don't know if it would appeal to a large audience because the sequel will have a higher production value (as well as budget) aimed for a handful of film festivals. Would you think the old equipment would pass for a nice film in a film festival?

    If you were in the audience and saw something that looked like the janitor (the way it was shot) what would you personally think? or anyone for that matter here on this forum. What are your first impressions of it.
    Imagination and discipline are like yin and yang; both are completely different and yet without each other they are nothing.

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