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    Default Throw a bone to the new guy

    Hey, Im new to video editing and could really use some advice.

    I have some old VHS tapes, about 20 years old, from my days on Okinawa in the Marines. I want to capture them onto my hard drive. I've already been doing this with Pinnacles Dazzle USB device and Ive been capturing in AVI format. What I would like to now is, am I going about this the best way? Im getting a lot of dropped frames, like around 2000 over a 100 min video. How can I make sure I get these saved as good as VHS will allow?

    Thank you for any help

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    Capture performance depends on a few fundamental factors:

    1) The transfer medium (in your case, USB)
    2) The power of the PC and
    3) The codec used to encode the video

    Can you confirm

    a) whether you are using USB2
    b) the specs of your PC (processor, disk space remaining etc)
    c) what format you are saving the video in

    By optmising your PC you can get the most out of the hardware and limit dropped frames. However, by using a better capture device, you don't have to worry about sucg things! I have used an AVDC100 to great effect. This passes the video via firewire and saves to DV AVI.
    Last edited by Marc Peters; 02-24-2009 at 08:46 PM.

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    I've found using a DVD recorder gives as good results as any, the problem with any VHS tape that drops frames is the potential to reverse the field order of the video from that point on, causing jitter on the play back.

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    Thanks for the quick feedback. Here is a quick look at my computer:

    Case: Antec 1200
    PSU: Antec 850W Sig. Series
    MOBO: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P
    CPU: Intel Core I7 920 Nehalem 2.66 GHz
    GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR 5
    RAM: Corsair 6GB (3X2GB) DDR3 1333
    OS: Vista Ultimate 64 bit
    C drive: WD 300GB VelociRaptor 10k rpm (80% or better free)
    E drive: WD 150GBX2 VelociRaptor 10k rpm RAID 0 (80% or better free)
    Monitor: ASUS VH242H 24 inch
    DVD drive: LG 22X DVD Burner
    Software: Studio 12 Ultimate
    Sony Vegas 9 Platinum

    Right now I am using a USB2 device, but it would seem to me that this is not optimal. I mean, my computer and hard drive are capable of high performance, but a USB2 conection is not. Should I go with an internal device and if so can you recomend some?

    Ive been capturing in AVI format with the thought that this does not compress the VHS image, further reducing the quality. Am I on the right track?

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    Kindof. make sure your encoding in uncompressed avi or dv avi. the file may be a .avi file but it may not nessercerrally be encoded in the right format. a composite to firewire unit would be best.

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    Gotcha. Im leaning towards the Canopus ADVC-300 over the 100 because Ive read that the 300 has the ability to "clean up" the analog signal. Anyone got any experience with this to let me know if its just hype? I would love to step up to the Matrox but on top of being twice as much, I would have to spend another $400 on Adobe.

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    The Canopus ADVC-300 converts to DV so most editing programs will handle it, it's if you want to make a DVD were you might lose quality, some converters are not as good as others, my preference was Premiere 6 with Cinema Craft plug in, it produces the best mpeg2 of any I tried.

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