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Thread: Haven't seen this word much in here 'Apple Mac' need advice!

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    Default Haven't seen this word much in here 'Apple Mac' need advice!

    I use a PC but most of my friends use a MAC. Now that is cool, but they keep telling me to get one as they swear they are the best for music production and graphics, which i have heard a few times before.

    My Questions are: Do i buy a Mac? ( at a reasonable price from some associates), and if so should it be the new 5 series, or the proven 4 series? If any at all that is.

    Sorry if i posted in the wrong area but this one seemed most applicable.

    Open to any suggestions.[/b]

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    Some would argue that you get a unit specifically designed for the task with a MAC. I would argue that although this is true, you simply don't get the vast amount of end user support associated with a PC.

    I use my PC for more than just video editing. I'd never even contemplate getting a MAC that I can't upgrade myself, that is limited in the software I can use and that is essentially a specialist product...

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    Basically, if you do anything other than audio/graphics design and production then its not worth the dough...In the end you get more pc for the price
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    I get a daily email with links to IT stories of the day.

    This was in this mornings.

    http://hardware.silicon.com/desktops...m?nl=d20040910

    An interesting view. I laughed out loud at the idea that the only place in business for a MAC was to look cool in reception (not even bothering to plug it in).

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    Once again thanks for the help, I think it is all summed up in the words of P4ocer "more pc for the price" not to mention what Marc had to say about competitive and self upgrade. PC wins again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazeski
    Once again thanks for the help, I think it is all summed up in the words of P4ocer "more pc for the price" not to mention what Marc had to say about competitive and self upgrade. PC wins again.
    Not necesarily....There are definately cases where u should have a mac..Like if u are going to work in a graphics field, u should...not just because they may render a bit faster, but because almost all of that industry uses macs.
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    p4ocer,

    If i'm using my an Apple Mac for nothing other than music video editing are you saying that it would be a better bet bearing evertthing else in mind, i.e. pricing, upgrading?

    If possible can you let me know your views on this as i have a PC i use for music production and i was seriously thinking bout buying one for music and short film editing aswell. If anyone could shed some ultimate light on this situation I would be obliged as I was all set to buy a another PC very soon, but i would like the best my average amount funds would buy me.

    Ps. You dont work for Apple do you?

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    I don't have a Mac, but if I was only ever going to edit video on my main system then I would seriously consider one. Benefits of Macs are they are:

    - very easy to use
    - pretty much free of virus infections (ever known a Mac virus?)
    - have very capable video editing and dvd authoring software
    - very stable

    The cons are when you want to upgrade, use it for anything other than a dedicated purpose, and of course the initial outlay. Also, I THINK it's more difficult getting analogue video into a Mac (not sure if there are any compatible BOB's)

    If you are going for a Mac then don't look at anything other than the G5 in my opinion.
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    it depends how serious you are about it. and if you go with a mac, definitely go for a G5. will the computer be straight up editing? proffesionally?
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    I've probably come into this a litle too late, but after a recent invite from Marc, to browse around and possibly contribute, this topic is of interest to me.

    I can't/won't disagree with any of the comments, I've been on too many boards where a simple "Mac vs PC" thread develops into full scale World War 3. I've long given up giving away the secret and trying to convice other people to switch to a Mac, why should I bother? - they might end up taking work away from me

    Why this post then? - It's a new board for me and I needed to spell all this info out for someone else who recently asked for my opinion, now I can just point them here...

    I have 4 machines in my edit suite, 2 Macs and 2 PC's, The Mac's earn me my living - Full Stop.

    My Mac is on from 7am to whenever I finish, the same as my PC, while I 'll agree Win2K or XP is far more stable than Win98, I do spend around 2 to 3 hours per week "housekeeping" the PC, deleting cookies, temp files, virus checks, re-building the Registry etc and I still have to re-install the system software twice a year and Service Pack 2 on XP is giving me real grief at the moment!, the Mac I do nothing to - from one year to the next, other than empty the trash!

    I run a production/post production business and have been a video editor since 1989, I've used Mac's for video editing since 1994. We had one of the very first Media 100 edit suites outside of London, Mac's did have a reputation for being expensive, to give you an idea, the basic machine was then over 3k with SCSI 4.3 gig (yes 4 point 3) drives at 2.5k each plus VAT (I had 6 of them!). At that time PC's were running Pentiums at around 100/133Mhz, there was no way a PC would cope with capture at 4.5meg/sec and near realtime FX. It was several years before the PC (Pentium II) was able to compete with the Mac (at a professional level) both on processor power and hard drive capability.

    Today's Mac's have the advantage over PC's for many of the reasons listed in the previous posts, the operating system is UNIX based (UNIX/LINUX is favovoured by service providers for it's stability over Windows), Viri, Trojans and worms are almost unheard of in the Mac community, Mac's come complete with video and audio software that is tried and tested - iMovie, iDVD and GarageBand and the progression to pro apps - Final Cut, DVD Studio Pro and Soundtrack is a simple process.

    The new G5 iMac is awesome (around 1k UKP +/-), add Apple's video/audio package "Production Suite" (895UKP) which includes Final Cut (including Soundtrack and Livetype), DVDSP3 and Motion and you have a machine that is regarded as industry standard and capable of producing Hollywood movies or TV shows, ie: Cold Mountain, 24, Full Frontal, Discovery Channel etc. A G5 dual 2.5 with 8Gb RAM is even better and still priced around the same as a full spec PC.

    An Apple has the advantage over PC's in that it comes with all the internal "parts" Apple certified and fitted, PC's tend to be fitted with the cheapest possible components to keep the basic selling price low, if you want better quality components they come as "extras", by the time you add these extra's up you'll find you are actually paying more than you would for a Mac!

    One comment I get thrown on a regular basis is "but the BBC use PC's for editing", True, they run Avid pro on dual Xeon workstations with an IT department to offer a full technical backup service, they do however, run Final Cut on many Mac's as well, as do many other production facilities, just walk in to any of the edit suites in Dean Street, most are running Apples/FCP in some configuration. I have a collegue who had a Media 100 suite costing nearly 50k, today he takes an Apple G4 17" laptop with Final Cut Pro out with him and edits for broadcast in his hotel room - just imagine what's coming in the future....?

    There is no "best", if the there was we'd all be driving Ford's (or GM's or whatever), the machine you choose is just a tool, if you can afford a dedicated machine for video/audio then the Mac is probably the best choice, if you need a machine for video/audio/web surfing/Doom/Freecell and your household accounts then a PC would be the better choice.

    I'm not hoping to convince anyone of anything here, just giving my take on the subject, I will watch this board for a while and if anyone has Mac or Mac software questions that I can answer, I'll do so. You never know, maybe Marc will start a Mac section....!

    Good luck with your choice (which you've probably made now!)

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