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    Default Grr...

    What is it with people who don't know what they're talking about offering people who don't know enough to know that these people don't know what they're talking about advice?

    Terrible sentence, but give it a few reads and you'll be fine. :P

    The fact that this person has his own (terrible) website about video helps the situation even less, because these newbies see that and decide that because he has his own site he obviously knows what he's talking about, not knowing that any fool can have a site on the net. The hard part is filling it full of usefulness and keeping people coming back, which i'm assuming people don't do to his site, 'cos it's crap.

    don't all go getting paranoid though, I'm not getting at anyone on this forum, in fact, bar one or two fools who've tried to advertise for overpriced american pc builders, and their own pyramid schemes, we're all a fairly sensible bunch here.

    I don't think there's anyone here that thinks they are more knowledgeable than they are, so yay us!

    Just had to have a grumble about a certain person somewhere else on the net that some of you may or may not have seen me arguing with.

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    here's some excerpts of his stupidity. I just started poking my nose in this newsgroup, but apparently he's been spouting this nonsense for ages...

    You need to be aware that video CDs can be recorded in either VCD or
    SVCD format. VCD gives very poor quality. SVCD gives good quality but
    you can only get about 20 minutes of video on a CD.

    Insofar as what miniDV camcorder to get, I would suggest that you look
    for one with DV-in and analogue pass-through. This will allow you to
    capture analogue from your old analogue camcorder as digital on your PC,
    via your new camcorder. Once you've done that, you can create VCD or
    SVCD CDs, or (if you get a DVD burner and your DVD player supports DVD-R
    or DVD+R) on DVD. Video DVDs produced in this way will give you
    relatively good quality disks with up to 57 minutes per DVD.

    my replies to this in bold, and his replies, in italics.


    >20 minutes on an svcd is nonsense. Even high-action (hence high-ish
    >bitrate) stuff, you're looking at about 45 minutes in 800mb.


    Obviously you aren't at all concerned with quality. I suspect that most
    people are.



    >57 RELATIVELY GOOD QUALITY minutes on a dvdr? Did you pull that out of
    >your arse? 57 minutes, even with 1536kbps audio, is a video bitrate of
    >8227kbps. That's crazy high. for most subject matter, half that bitrate
    >(hence twice the length of video) will be plenty. And that's average
    >bitrate.


    Obviously you aren't at all concerned with quality.

    I suspect that most people are more interested in getting good-quality
    video than you are, else they'd all be doing nothing more than produce
    VCDs or (if they wanted longer video) distribute/view on VHS.

    Hence my advice - which I'll stick to.


    i mean, what on earth is he all about? 8.2mbit/sec AVERAGE bitrate? grr...

    I won't name and shame the guy here, but anyone who wants to know will only have to search for a few words of this in google groups and they'll find it.

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    just say his name, and ill get on there and call him a a couple foul words.... its my job, i called "premiereuser" over at wrigley a douche mc muffin. and now everyones like GWENNY THE !@#!@$



    ....it was good
    Frank Sinatra - \"Thats Life, Biatch\"

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    well i definitely got the douche mc muffin in there, with a couple other words..... i hope he doesnt shoot himself.
    Frank Sinatra - \"Thats Life, Biatch\"

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    i like it. i am actually laughing out loud, so thanks for that.

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    I feel left out! What am I missing?

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    Found it now - goo job I have the day off to read it all LOL.

    Remind me never ever ever to piss you guys off - (thinks of all that bad advice he's given in the past)

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    I clearly need to do better things with my days off.

    The whole problem is that the guy you mentioned doesn't listen. He obviosly spends a lot of time on the newsgroup, but doesn't seem to have learned a thing from his peers.

    Hey, I'm no digital video wizard and I'm certainly learning new things on a weekly basis by being able to admit when I'm wrong and throwing out all my misconceptions when I am (which is frequent).

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    That's exactly it. I'm far from an expert, but if i don't know anything, i either don't offer advice, or say "well, i might be talking crap but...". This guy says everything like he knows it.

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    Now that you have some spare time on your hands... how's about knocking up a video for the contest?

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