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    Default Please, give me a leg up

    Hi,

    Apologies in advance if this is not the right
    approach. I have a DSLR and a nice Canon PowerShot
    S70. Both produce great stills of my baby daughter.
    Howerever the S70 is only 10fps, 640 x 480.

    I want/need a entry level camcorder, preferbly HD and
    want to spend less than 300. But I don't know where
    to start reading guides/reviews/recommendations.

    Can you help. Will it matter that I use an Apple Mac
    rather than a PC?

    Cheers

    Fitz

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    Apple Macs are far better suited to video editting/converting [IMHO] (the software it comes with handles HD like a dream, and makes WMM look like a joke), so not a problem there.

    But a HD camera for less than 300, that's not going to happen for a few years yet I'm affraid. The cheapest is just over 550 at the mo (Canon HV10) I think. Correct me If i'm wrong guys!

    Just don't get a DVD camera whatever you do!!

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    Mosh - have you got an apple tatoo???

    And HD might mean hard drive in this case? If so my advice is to avoid HD cameras, dv gives better quality and is a mature technology, and you can chage the tape if it gets full.

    Best to edit on a pc too... my XP tatoo is lovely...

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    Default Please, give me a leg up

    Thx Mosh/Mark W,

    So no to DVD and no to HD.

    I'm not looking to be proficient just something to provide good quality indoors (baby daughter) and outdoor (ski holidays, step-son on his skateboard).

    Don't mind DV, just want to get a start, if it goes well i can always upgrade in a couple of years. But my present 30fps at 640 x 480 is a wate of time.

    Cheers

    Fitz

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    LoL, no, but a friend of mine does on his upper arm :-p

    I have nothing against editing on windows, it's just the basic software that comes on a mac is better, and you don't need to mess around with drivers.

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    Default Please, give me a leg up

    Hi Mosh,

    Having seen what iMovie in iLife08 can do I am keen to buy my first camcorder ASAP.

    So all help/comments welcomed.

    Cheers

    Fitz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzmurray View Post
    So no to DVD and no to HD.
    Correct! As long as 'HD' in this case stands for 'Hard Drive'. HD standing for 'High Def' is more than fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSH View Post
    LoL, no, but a friend of mine does on his upper arm :-p .
    Ha that is ace, you gotta send me a pic. (he says off topically)

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    If your happy to go with a standard definition mini dv tape camcorder in my opinion the Panasonic NV camera'a have to be the best in the price range.

    For under 300 you get a 3ccd camera, the ccd's are pretty small but for the money they are great.

    The NV-GS230 is a 2.3 mega pixel camera for under 300 with 4:3 shaped ccd's that can capture 16:9. This way in 16:9 mode you lose a tiny bit of sharpness making the 4:3 picture that little bit better quality. But it's still a nice picture.

    The NV-GS320 is a 3.1 mega pixel camera for just over 300 with 16:9 shaped ccd's. So the picture quality is that bit more noticeably better, especially with 16:9. It also has a bit better quality lens.

    The problem with deciding between the two is that the 230 has a microphone and headphone socket. The 320 doesn't.

    If you want the 16:9 sensors with the mic and headphone sockets you need to look a few hundred quid more expensive at the 4 mega pixel NV-GS500 version.

    I highly recommend these camera's for this price range.

    David.

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    I just remembered one more important issue with these camera's. The 230 only has a DV in but no DV out. Previewing on a TV monitor (while editing) through this camera via fire wire is not possible.

    David.

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