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12-09-2007, 10:27 PM
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| | You tube streams at a low bit rate, about 250 to 300kbit/s - that is never going to get great quality.
I am no expert but I have found that it is best to upload at the native res of the file at the best bit rate you can fit wthin the tubes limit.
I upload at dv res, .wmv, 1mbit/sec vbr and I am happy with the result.
Things without much motion look better so keep that camera still. Avoid adding video noise - compresses badly, adding contrast helps, and all you tube videos are mono.
GUBA offers a much better bit rate - 400 - but i have only watched stuff there never uploaded.
For the best quality that gives you total control you will never beat your own site with your own hosting space. Vids on my site are all 1 mbit wmv and the quality is near dvd - up the bitrate to 1.5 to 2 mbit/sec and you have dvd, near dv quality.
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12-10-2007, 09:13 AM
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| | heh heh! I watched your Star Trek vid! Captain Kirk's double/triple/quadruple take was most funny! The whole thing is well done. You oughtta be doing this professionally!
A couple questions for ya. Which VBR do you use? Vegas Studio Platinum has 3 - Bitrate VBR (peak), Quality VBR, and Bitrate VBR. And if I do this, do I need to VBR the audio too? And if you use your own host for WMV, do you recommend VBR for this too, or CBR?
Also, who is your host? I tried one but they buffered me pretty badly at a streaming rate of only 512 kbps. That won't do. WMV seems to be my best option, but finding a reliable host with a great backbone on the Net is most confusing 'cause there's so many. Who is yours and are you happy with them?
I'll check out this GUBA site later, but methinks my only real option is my own site. I came to this conclusion a while ago and you've reinforced this opinion. My only real problem with this is paying to get an audience, but if I gotta, I gotta.
Anyway... cool vids. I bookmarked your site to return late to see more. Kap'n Kirk never looked funnier (and I always found him silly!).  I got a big kick out of that, but the moral was most sobering. Oh! And that guy that got hit by the car -- that was for real, wasn't it? It sure looked like it! Pretty scarey! | 
12-12-2007, 02:18 PM
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| | Thanks for the big up Lengo - people keep telling me I am good - but I just have no business brain!
As for the rendering, after much experimentation I settled on the following settings; Bit rate vbr for video, average bit rate 1 meg, DV resoloution, 25 fps (same as the project so you might use ntsc frame rate), audio is 64kbit cbr but vbr would be fine.
I use 1 meg as the best compromise between quality and ease of streaming.
The hosting company i ue is data flame and I find thier service is very good.
The gut getting run over -looks real but it is fake - it is from a tv advert I think.
I did this tut about streaming - also on my web site. http://www.videoforums.co.uk/reviews..._articleid/255
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JVC DV5001e (big cam), Sony PC6E (tiny cam), Vinten pro5, PAG light, SM58, Sony ECM50, Sony C-76, 0.5x convertors for sony, Rode video mic, Vegas 7.
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03-01-2008, 10:02 AM
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| | This is all very helpful to me, as I am learning more and more about this process, but I was wondering, if the video is not coming from a camera at all, but being ripped from commercial dvds - Do you have any suggestions regarding what settings would be best for uploading my video to youtube - the files are all .avi with a DivX Codec and the video is about 3 minutes long, and I've been messing around for ages, but the quality is never what I aim for, which is probably this: YouTube - Learning to Stand and the Mirror Stage
If you have any ideas, I would greatly sppareciate it  | 
04-18-2008, 04:59 AM
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| | Very helpful.
Thanks!
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04-18-2008, 07:54 AM
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| | Upload videos larger than 100MB Quote:
Originally Posted by timtak There is a slight problem, however, with wmv in that it is quite a lot bigger, and apparently (although I have not come up against this problem yet myself) one may run up against the 100MB restriction before one meets the 10 minute restriction, which is not the case using the Vegas 7 AVC/AAC format (i.e. a 10 minute video is less than 100MB in AVC/AAC), which seems, from my experimentation to work just as well as wmv (or not well  ) in my trials.
Tim | If you use the "multi-video uploader" (on the right-hand side of the upload screen in YouTube) you can upload videos up to 1GB.
You can also upload video longer than 10 minutes if your channel type is "director".
To change your channel to "director" follow these steps:
1. When signed in click on your channel name (at the top of the screen, "studioseventytwo" for example)
2. Click on "Edit Channel" (the yellow box in your channel discription box on the left-hand side)
3. At the bottom of the "Channel Info" screen there is a thing saying your channel type and if you want to change it, click change channel type and switch to director.
Hope that helps
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04-21-2008, 12:30 PM
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| | 1) Why i should render to 320x240 video, when in youtube video are bigger?
2) With Vegas Pro 8 which is the best config for a good render for youtube? This post is old. | 
04-27-2008, 07:58 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesy 1) Why i should render to 320x240 video, when in youtube video are bigger? | You can make it 640x480 no problems, unless the file size gets over 100MB (1GB in multi-file uploader).
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04-28-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by StudioSeventyTwo You can make it 640x480 no problems, unless the file size gets over 100MB (1GB in multi-file uploader). | 640x480 mean best quality or they convert in 320x240 the same and then stretch it to fit in youtube site? | 
04-29-2008, 06:23 AM
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| | You can render it as 640x480 and it should stay 640x480 on YouTube.
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