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" WILL BE LOOKING TO PAY AROUND £50 FOR 10 MINUTE EDITED VIDEO "

I presume you missed a zero off the 50 there.....

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presumption is the mother of all **** ups, use it wisely...

I am looking for student editors who want extra cash and a chance to build their portfolio's in some damn cool enviroements.

They would also have free pass's to the club nights to capture the atmosphere befor editing. For the right person, its good deal.

I edit the video my self, but with more work coming on, i am having to consider my options...

Cheers for the non con structive msg anyway dude

Peace

Not constructive for you no - but believe me we see many many requests here for people to work for ridiculous low rates for companys who profit highly from thier work.

It's constructive for the regular site users - that was my aim (dude).

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3° & 4° Gulielmi IV, cap. LXXIII

An Act for the Abolition of Slavery throughout the British Colonies; for promoting the Industry of the manumitted Slaves; and for compensating the Persons hitherto entitled to the Services of such Slaves.

[28th August 1833.]

'Whereas divers Persons are holden in Slavery within divers of His Majesty's Colonies, and it is just and expedient that all such Persons should be manumitted and set free, and that a reasonable Compensation should be made to the Persons hitherto entitled to the Services of such Slaves for the Loss which they will incur by being deprived of their Right to such Services: And whereas it is also expedient that Provision should be made for promoting the Industry and securing the good Conduct of the Persons so to be manumitted, for a limited Period after such their Manumission: And whereas it is necessary that the Laws now in force in the said several Colonies should forthwith be adapted to the new State and Relations of Society therein which will follow upon such general Manumission as aforesaid of the said Slaves; and that, in order to afford the necessary Time for such Adaptation of the said Laws, a short Interval should elapse before such Manumission should take effect;'

All Persons who on the 1st August 1834 shall have been registered as Slaves, and shall appear on the Registry to be Six Years old or upwards, shall from that Day become apprenticed Labourers.
Be it therefore enacted by the King's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the Authority of the same, That from and after the first Day of August One thousand eight hundred and thirty-four all Persons who in conformity with the Laws now in force in the said Colonies respectively shall on or before the first Day of August One thousand eight hundred and thirty-four have been duly registered as Slaves in any such Colony, and who on the said first Day of August One thousand eight hundred and thirty-four shall be actually within any such Colony, and who shall by such Registries appear to be on the said first Day of August One thousand eight hundred and thirty-four of the full Age of Six Years or upwards, shall by force and virtue of this Act, and without the previous Execution of any Indenture of Apprenticeship, or other Deed or Instrument for that Purpose, become and be apprenticed Labourers; provided that, for the Purposes aforesaid, every Slave engaged in his ordinary Occupation on the Seas shall be deemed and taken to be within the Colony to which such Slave shall belong.

Who entitled to Services of the Slave as an apprenticed Labourer.
II. And be it further enacted, That during the Continuance of the Apprenticeship of any such apprenticed Labourer such Person or Persons shall be entitled to the Services of such apprenticed Labourer as would for the Time being have been entitled to his or her Services as a Slave if this Act had not been made.

All Slaves brought into the United Kingdom with Consent of Possessors, free.
III. Provided also, and be it further enacted, That all Slaves who may at any Time previous to the passing of this Act have been brought with the Consent of their Possessors, and all apprenticed Labourers who may hereafter with the like Consent be brought, into any part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, shall from and after the passing of this Act be absolutely and entirely free to all Intents and Purposes whatsoever.

Apprenticed Labourers to be divided into Three Classes, viz. praedial attached, praedial unattached, and non-praedial.

Proviso.
IV. 'And whereas it is expedient that all such apprenticed Labourers should, for the Purposes herein-after mentioned, be divided into Three distinct Classes, the First of such Classes consisting of praedial apprenticed Labourers attached to the Soil, and comprising all Persons who in their State of Slavery were usually employed in Agriculture, or in the Manufacture of Colonial Produce or otherwise, upon Lands belonging to their Owners; the Second of such Classes consisting of praedial apprenticed Labourers not attached to the Soil, and comprising all Persons who in their State of Slavery were usually employed in Agriculture, or in the Manufacture of Colonial Produce or otherwise, upon Lands not belonging to their Owners; and the Third of such Classes consisting of non praedial apprenticed Labourers and comprising all apprenticed Labourers not included within either of the Two preceding Classes:' be it therefore enacted, That such Division as aforesaid of the said apprenticed Labourers into such Classes as aforesaid shall be carried into effect in such Manner and Form and subject to such Rules and Regulations as shall for that Purpose be established under such Authority, and in and by such Acts of Assembly, Ordinances, or Orders in Council, as herein after mentioned: Provided always, that no Person of the Age of Twelve Years and upwards shall by or by virtue of any such Act of Assembly, Ordinance, or Order in Council be included in either of the said Two Classes of praedial apprenticed Labourers unless such Person shall for Twelve Calendar Months at the least next before the passing of this present Act have been habitually employed in Agriculture or in the Manufacture of Colonial Produce.

Apprenticeship of the praedial Labourers not to continue beyond 1st August 1840.
V. And be it further enacted, That no Person who by virtue of this Act, or of any such Act of Assembly, Ordinance, or Order in Council as aforesaid, shall become a praedial apprenticed Labourer, whether attached or not attached to the Soil, shall continue in such Apprenticeship beyond the first Day of August One thousand eight hundred and forty; and that during such his or her Apprenticeship no such praedial apprenticed Labourer, whether attached or not attached to the Soil, shall be bound or liable, by virtue of such Apprenticeship, to perform any Labour in the Service of his or her Employer or Employers for more than forty-five Hours in the whole in any One Week.

of the non-praedial Labourers not beyond 1st August 1838.
VI. And be it further enacted, That no Person who by virtue of this Act or of any such Act of Assembly, Ordinance, or Order in Council as aforesaid, shall become a non-praedial apprenticed Labourer, shall continue in such Apprenticeship beyond the first Day of August One thousand eight hundred and thirty-eight.

Before the Apprenticeship is expired, the Labourer may be discharged by the voluntary Act of his Employer. In case of the voluntary Discharge of aged or infirm apprenticed Labourers, tbeEmployer to continue liable for their Support.
VII. And be it further enacted, That if before any such Apprenticeship shall have expired the Person or Persons entitled for and during the Remainder of any such Term to the Services of such apprenticed Labourer shall be desirous to discharge him or her from such Apprenticeship, it shall be lawful for such Person or Persons so to do by any Deed or Instrument to be by him, her, or them for that Purpose made and executed; which Deed or Instrument shall be in such Form, and shall be executed and recorded in such Manner and with such Solemnities, as shall for that Purpose be prescribed under such Authority, and in and by such Acts of Assembly, Ordinances, or Orders in Council, as herein-after mentioned: Provided nevertheless, that if any Person so discharged from any such Apprenticeship by any such voluntary Act as aforesaid shall at that Time be of the Age of Fifty Years or upwards, or shall be then labouring under any such Disease or mental or bodily Infirmity as may render him or her incapable of earning his or her Subsistence, then and in every such Case the Person or Persons so discharging any such apprenticed Labourer as aforesaid shall continue and be liable to provide for the Support and Maintenance of such apprenticed Labourer during the remaining Term of such original Apprenticeship, as fully as is such apprenticed Labourer had not been discharged therefrom.

Shiner you crack me up. But point well made.

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"WILL BE LOOKING TO PAY AROUND £50 FOR 10 MINUTE EDITED VIDEO"

You are, of course, joking. I also liked the bit about how the mug should be glad that he's getting free entry into the club! Nice one!

Let's be frank here, anyone who makes a 10 minute video for £50 is a mug. Film students aren't that stupid. I have students working for me, cable-bashing and they get paid £100 a day. That is normal. £50 for all that work is a joke.

If this is a serious offer, then it's nothing more than a con. Using other people's gullability to earn your money.

Anyone who goes to a venue, with kit, films, records and edits the material into a 10 minute video, and then sells it for £50 is a fool.

While i appreciate that you may be looking to get a cheap deal as a small company you need to realise that there is a limit to go to. What you are asking is too low. You may aswell ask someone to bend over and take it up the preverbial at the same time.

For a 10 Minute video I would be charging you £2 - 5k. Maybe that puts things in perspective for you. £50 is not enough. It makes you look unprofessional as a business because you clearly havent researched this before looking for the talent.

To understand how charges work break it down.

• Camera hire (even if camera men own their own kit they will charge to hire, this then covers manitanece costs same goes for all other kit.
• Shooting rates: £200 - 350 per day. why so high? Camera Operation is a specialised skill.
• Tape stock
• Editing Rates: you would be looking at a minimum of 2 days editing.
• Graphics work. Any supporting graphics will need to be prepped for the film and edited in.

This hopefully gives you a taster of how it breaks down and thus shows you that asking for a £50 job is rediculous. Its not a good deal for the right person - its financial rape. I'd charge you more than that just for a consultation.

This isnt even worth doing for a student and i recommend all students to stay away from such a shoddy deal.


Here's the other side of the coin too: SHODDY WORK!

if you somehow manage to persuade some idiot to actually do this job for you for £50 it will be a puile of crap. You will then help further taint the video production industry with another cowboy who thinks they know what they are doing who will then go on and give us all a bad reputation and if that happens i will thankyou for being an utter idiot.

No-one here is trying to be cruel to you. As previously mentioned we see these kind of posts all the time - if you search the foryums you will find many that equally come up against as much critique as this one.

MarkW, The Guru and myself are all moderators here on the site but we are also all professionals in the industry. We take on the responsibility that people wont get screwed over by "deals" like this one.

The minimum you can do to make yours "a good deal for the right person" is to add another zero to it.

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Nice company website??? Nope - just a my space page - says it all really I think.

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