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05-29-2004, 03:26 AM
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omg will someone listen? The cheapest performance upgrade you can get is RAID 0!! Buy two hard drives that are half the size and RAID them together. That's the way to go!
P4, you forget, this is video editing, not hardcore overclocking/modding/gaming
Just get a Matrox
Avoid the All-In-Wonder; I have one and the audio and video get way out of sinc and it gets screwy.
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1GB Kingston HyperX PC4000 Dual-Channel
Abit IS7-G
2x80GB Western Digital 7200RPM 8MB Cache RAID 0
ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 Pro
Sony DVD-ROM
NEC CD-RW
NEC 19\" CRT
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05-29-2004, 10:50 AM
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http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q2.../index.x?pg=26
Interesting.... RAID doesn't offer much of a performance benefit over single-drive configurations in our DivX encoding test. Sure you can pick up a fraction of a frame per second by adding a second drive, but really, that's about it. | |
05-29-2004, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MoJoe omg will someone listen? The cheapest performance upgrade you can get is RAID 0!! Buy two hard drives that are half the size and RAID them together. That's the way to go!
P4, you forget, this is video editing, not hardcore overclocking/modding/gaming
Just get a Matrox
Avoid the All-In-Wonder; I have one and the audio and video get way out of sinc and it gets screwy. |
I did....2 raptors http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q2.../index.x?pg=26
Interesting....
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RAID doesn't offer much of a performance benefit over single-drive configurations in our DivX encoding test. Sure you can pick up a fraction of a frame per second by adding a second drive, but really, that's about it. |
Thats a damn lie...my friend can be a copmpletely clean, full ntfs format in 45 seconds with his dual raptors
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05-29-2004, 07:27 PM
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Thing is, encoding is CPU dependant. So I would hazard a guess that the performance of encoding won't be significantly improved unless the HDD was acting as a bottleneck. So from a pure video encoding point of view, it's no great performance boost. However, as you say, because the read and write access times are improved in RAID0, you get an overall performance boost.
If you don't care about fault tollerance, your ok. If, however, you've got "mission critical" data on your PC (such as a friends video LOL), you'll either want to go for single or mirrored drives. No increase in perfomance but peace of mind for those of us too lazy to back-up LOL
Ultimately, it's a "lifestyle" choice. If you want the best performance, go for RAID0. However, if you're risk averse, don't. But bear in mind that although you may find certain tasks are quicker, encoding might not be quicker as it's significantly OS dependant (more specifically dependant on the clock speed of your processor).
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05-29-2004, 10:46 PM
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or Raid 5
gotta love that performance and security
For those of you that dont know what that is,
Raid 5 uses at least 3 harddrives and each harddrive contains a portion of the data. SO if one of the drives fails. The other 2 can rebuild the data
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Abit IC7
Seagate 80gb sata
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460W Enermax
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SP-94 with Tornado
Panasonic GS200 on its way with:
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06-02-2004, 12:22 AM
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wow, i feel like a dingleberry...editing on a stock PC n all...... but i did but a new Radeon in there so i can run dual monitors... theyre not flatscreen, from what ive heard with flatscreen its real blurry for editing.
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06-02-2004, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc Peters Thing is, encoding is CPU dependant. So I would hazard a guess that the performance of encoding won't be significantly improved unless the HDD was acting as a bottleneck. So from a pure video encoding point of view, it's no great performance boost. However, as you say, because the read and write access times are improved in RAID0, you get an overall performance boost.
If you don't care about fault tollerance, your ok. If, however, you've got "mission critical" data on your PC (such as a friends video LOL), you'll either want to go for single or mirrored drives. No increase in perfomance but peace of mind for those of us too lazy to back-up LOL
Ultimately, it's a "lifestyle" choice. If you want the best performance, go for RAID0. However, if you're risk averse, don't. But bear in mind that although you may find certain tasks are quicker, encoding might not be quicker as it's significantly OS dependant (more specifically dependant on the clock speed of your processor). |
sure RAID won't help you much with the brute rendering, but when it comes to the basic things like starting up your editing program, previewing video files, and moving files around, RAID gives a significant performance boost. The great thing about it is that it's very, very cheap. when I got my hard drives, 2 80GB hard drives were just a tad cheaper than an equivalent 160GB hard drive. My RAID card cost me 10 dollars. Definently worth it.
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1GB Kingston HyperX PC4000 Dual-Channel
Abit IS7-G
2x80GB Western Digital 7200RPM 8MB Cache RAID 0
ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 Pro
Sony DVD-ROM
NEC CD-RW
NEC 19\" CRT
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06-02-2004, 08:48 AM
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yes. trouble is now I can get a 80 gig for £42 but 2 40 gigs cost me £75
anyway, while I was looking at that i found an 80 gig drive for £25 including VAT!! shame it only is 5400 RPM from Ebuyer
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09-21-2004, 12:49 PM
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Well, this thread seems to have gotten right off topic!
Pieguy, I have a Sony PCV-RS504 which is a P4 3Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 160Gb HDD, DVD-rewriter, blah blah. And I am very happy with it. Cost me £750 from Comet. I bought a 2nd HDD and an extra 512mb RAM for about £70 and a nice stylish Sony 17" LCD monitor off Ebay for £300. Total outlay (with postage, etc) a shade under £1200.
Could I build something better for the money? Yeah, but who can be bothered! I want to edit video to make DVDs not spend my time tinkering. It was bad enough trying to put together a home network to share my broadband connection - enough already!
If it breaks I can take it back to the shop. It comes loaded with Premiere 6 LE, Click-to-DVD, DVGate Plus (a handy file converter which handles DV, MPG, AVI, etc) and Gigapocket (a TV tuner/recorder program). So I can capture analog footage, convert it to AVIs, edit with Premiere and burn it to DVD.
[This was the real scene stealer for me as I have a whole host of old 8mm stuff I wanted to edit and burn]
Plus comes with Photoshop Elements pre-loaded, memory card reader, blah blah.
It's nice and quiet too. Oh, and it looks good.
For those with no inclination to assemble their own bits and bobs and who like the idea of a nice-looking machine with a brand name and all the stuff you need to capture and edit analog and digital, I think's its a good deal
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09-21-2004, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsafety Could I build something better for the money? Yeah, but who can be bothered! I want to edit video to make DVDs not spend my time tinkering. It was bad enough trying to put together a home network to share my broadband connection - enough already!
If it breaks I can take it back to the shop. It comes loaded with Premiere 6 LE, Click-to-DVD, DVGate Plus (a handy file converter which handles DV, MPG, AVI, etc) and Gigapocket (a TV tuner/recorder program). So I can capture analog footage, convert it to AVIs, edit with Premiere and burn it to DVD.
[This was the real scene stealer for me as I have a whole host of old 8mm stuff I wanted to edit and burn]
Plus comes with Photoshop Elements pre-loaded, memory card reader, blah blah.
It's nice and quiet too. Oh, and it looks good.
For those with no inclination to assemble their own bits and bobs and who like the idea of a nice-looking machine with a brand name and all the stuff you need to capture and edit analog and digital, I think's its a good deal
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I have to say that's quite a sensible statement (and I'm a hardware geek that builds my own stuff) because a lot of people don't have the time / ability / patience to biuld their own system, no matter how 'easy' a lot of people think it is. Quite often, it's not a case of "stick anything together" because, although it's rare, there are quite a lot of new and decent quality components, that although use the same standards, are incompatible with each other.
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