Go Back   Video Editing Forums: Digital Director > Video Editing: Software Problems and buying advice > General Software Problems

General Software Problems Quality not quite what you expected? Need help with video capture, editing, encoding or playback. Post here for software not covered elsewhere.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-27-2004, 09:19 PM
Junior Member
Windows Movie Maker
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London
Posts: 1
0 Videos nominated
Video Of the Month(s): 0
frankm
Default TMPGEnc MPEG Editor and file size problem

Have just bought TMPGEnc MPEG Editor (Its no longer free!) and have cut sections from a 1hr 53 min long MPEG2 video clip (1,779,089 KB),making it exactly 1hr long. When I come to save the shortened clip as a 'Common MPEG' file it fails with the message insufficient disk free space available, 6.53 GB free space needed. I am saving to a partition with 3.83 GB of free space so clearly it is not enought. But can anyone explain why such a comparatively short video clip requires such a lot of free space to be saved?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-29-2004, 08:54 AM
LJR LJR is offline
Senior Member
Video Editing Junkie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 791
0 Videos nominated
Video Of the Month(s): 0
LJR
Send a message via MSN to LJR
Default

Well, here's my theory on this.

In basic terms, MPEG2 uses delta information between two key frames and these are not full frames. So, in essence you will have a key frame (I-frame) which will be a full frame with all the the image content and then you will have intermediate frames (P and B frames) which in themselves do not contain all the image data but just information on what's changed (this is very high-level btw).

When you go to transcode this to standard MPEG, then all those intermediate frames become full frames again. I believe this is why the file size increases.

Alternatively I could be talking complete and utter twaddle.
__________________
Lloyd

That's my opinion. If you don't like it I have others

System: Apple Macbook Pro 17, and an external Freecom 500GB eSATA drive.
Software: Final Cut Studio 2 (FCP 6, Motion 3, Soundtrack Pro 2, Color, DVD Studio Pro 4, Compressor 3), Sonicfire Pro 4.5
Favourite Resources: Findsounds.com, Free DVD menus, Ken Stone's FCP Page, Wikivid
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-29-2004, 09:54 AM
Marc Peters's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kent
Posts: 8,744
0 Videos nominated
Video Of the Month(s): 0
Marc Peters has disabled reputation
Default

Depends on the above and the comparative bitrates. As Lloyd says, file sizes of MPEG2 video will vary according to the variables used in the encoding process. I would suggest that you use a bitrate calculator to get the right size of video for any given length.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Batch MPEG-2 Editor Evil_E General Software Problems 0 01-22-2007 01:37 PM
File size? Chapman Photography Sony Vegas and Media Studio 3 04-18-2006 02:40 AM
Problem with TMPGEnc HendonFC General Software Problems 0 08-23-2004 07:44 PM
Tmpgenc DVD problem Dima General Software Problems 10 04-28-2004 11:28 AM
Problem with TMPGenc fungus General Software Problems 6 04-24-2004 06:39 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:03 PM.