Are the CanonHV30,Sony HDR-XR100E and Panasonic HDC-HS300 broadcast quality cameras? - Page 3

Chapman Photography · #21 (**permalink**) 06-19-2009, 06:29 AM

Hey Harley,
You dont need to post in the forums for Marc or any mod to check their PM's we do every time we log on, it just clutters up the forum if everyone says "hey so in so check your PM" just a friendly heads up

The Gaffer · #22 (**permalink**) 06-19-2009, 08:56 AM

Listen guys, a bit of a chill-out and a couple of favours please.

Firstly. Please don't quote the previous post unless there's some specific part you need to highlight. We're capable of scrolling up to see what has been written and there's nothing more annoying that having to read something twice.

Secondly,please, please don't pimp other forums here. By all means suggest that someone go elsewhere but let them google it for themselves.

This isn't meant as a pop at Harley, it's just unfortunate that he's the "sinner" this time. But is a "heads up" for those newcomers to this forum who have joined when (as every year) the quiet summer period has started.

Finally, as Marc pointed out, if you think that we can be harsh on this forum... we're pussycats compared to some others, and we'd like to keep it that way. If you have anything personal to say... PM.

davedolby · #23 (**permalink**) 06-28-2009, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by The Guru

Finally, as Marc pointed out, if you think that we can be harsh on this forum... we're pussycats compared to some others, and we'd like to keep it that way. If you have anything personal to say... PM.

As a complete outsider reading this forum I have to say.....if you weren't so blunt in the first place people would take onboard what you have to say a lot easier and you wouldn't have to repeat it over and over. Try it, it works!
I was in your shoes, all the reasons in the world as to why being blunt/harsh/not nice was ok and should be accepted, but in the end fact is people dont like it.....and if I thought back to when I was younger I didnt like it either, it makes you feel like crap and its hard to see the real point. So I stopped being like that and my whole life changed for the better, every point I tried to make to people went smoothly, instead of having to fight for it the whole way....just as I have witnessed in this forum today.
If you think about it, the only reason you get like that is because of the other people in your life like that......as you accept their bluntness you make it acceptable and forget why you never liked it in the first place.....its easy to see that happened to you judging by the bit of your post that I have quoted above.
You have a way with words that a lot of people don't have, although somewhere along the line you have been taught to be blunt instead of nice, but wouldn't you rather make people feel good instead of crap? You have the power to do either one just as I realised I do....I hope I have now made it possible to make a choice between the two.

Chapman Photography · #24 (**permalink**) 06-28-2009, 05:05 AM

First off, I don't think he was being harsh or blunt. If people would think before they wrote things it would make things a lot easier. I frequent another forum thats filled with motion picture DP's, Directors, grips, gaffer etc.. They can be harsh, strict and blunt. but I'll tell you this, its a well run forum. We're pretty easy going here and certain people mouth off and try to cause drama.

snapper1 · #25 (**permalink**) 06-28-2009, 07:15 AM

I'm a newbie film maker and I don't visit this forum so that people can be nice to me, I visit it for info. Hopefully, in return for this I throw a little bit back into the forum. I don't find the responses to my questions blunt at all.
Re. the camcorder thing, I just bought the best cam I could at the price I wanted to pay for a cam. I'll get something better when and if my film making takes off.So I bought a PD170, which although it's probably obsolete, with the advent of HD, is fine at this stage and teaches me how to use manual controls.
Gotta ask something unrelated, is it ok to post clips from my short films on the forum rather than complete short films?

Marc Peters · #26 (**permalink**) 06-28-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by snapper1

Gotta ask something unrelated, is it ok to post clips from my short films on the forum rather than complete short films?

Yep, the user videos section is for feedback. If you want feedback of a clip, simply post that video in the user videos section (on clip per thread).

Marc Peters · #27 (**permalink**) 06-28-2009, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by davedolby

I hope I have now made it possible to make a choice between the two.

As administrator of the site, it falls on me to guide on forum policy. It is forum policy to ensure our guests and members are educated in our core subject, video editing. We achieve this aim through providing advice based on experience of a core of subject matter experts. This advice is provided freely to all members provided they follow the forum rules. These experts are free to deliver their advice in any way they feel fit, but the ethos of this site is to 'cut through the bullshit'.

This is tempered by the needs of the user. If an individual expresses an interest in becoming (or is currently a professional), then the advice given is commensurate with that assumed aspiration of experience. Like it or not, the professional world is neccesarily harsh. To succeed in any profession, you can't be a shrinking violet.

And that is our choice. We match the advice to the needs of the user. The bottom line is that if an aspiring professional is in any way offended by the free advice given on this site, they should think long and hard about their career choice. On the other hand, if a member is looking to learn about their hobby, we'll be as patient as can be.

So it's not quite as clear cut as making a choice. We are here to help people, not make them feel good about themselves. Anyone can make someone feel good, it takes an expert to educate.

harleyriv · #28 (**permalink**) 06-28-2009, 11:45 AM

I've read and contributed to many forums of this type in recent years and in general this one is fairly civil. Sure, there are some who will take the opportunity to air a personal belief, others who believe their knowledge of a topic is a license to tweak the noses of the less knowledgeable, still others who think if they repeat it often enough their view will prevail, and those who frankly delight in sneering at the uninitiated.

Often it's the Mods in charge of these forums who are amongst the most guilty of the aforementioned weaknesses, but not always as the 'you-don't-want-to-do-it-like-that-you-should-do-it-like-this' types prove, but as many have already said, you take your chances in seeking advice on anything, and these types of forums simply reflect life as it is.

My advice, free from all of the above of course, is to sift the feedback very carefully and shop around before acting on anything.

digitalsfx · #29 (**permalink**) 06-29-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Marc Peters

We are here to help people, not make them feel good about themselves. Anyone can make someone feel good, it takes an expert to educate.

I wonder why cant both happen ? Why does it take so much to be nice to others ? It doesnt cost anything. Or is it just basic human nature to deride others ?

Anyway I dont know anyone personally here. I am here to seek knowledge, and if someone is being rude so be it - Nothing personal - its for people who know him or her in real to tackle that !

Marc Peters · #30 (**permalink**) 06-29-2009, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by digitalsfx

I wonder why cant both happen ? Why does it take so much to be nice to others ? It doesnt cost anything. Or is it just basic human nature to deride others ?

We are 'nice'. Being nice doesn't equate to massaging an ego. Being nice to someone is spending time watching a video and giving a critique or giving advice for example. And that does cost something. It costs our time.

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